Idlewild - Live in a Hiding Place
This is a great song, it didnt take me very long to work this out, so it might not b atall
perfect so, dont laugh if its wrong.
Mattius (thts not my real name, its a nickname, so dont think im Swedish or anything)
Guitar 1 plays this throughout the whole song
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Guitar 2 - comes in at around 3 minutes and plays this over guitar 1
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Lyrics
There are times that I should try,
To be so much more alive
But if time was right then I would be with you again
Or do you worry that I try to avoid the point
And then deny
The time I spent deciding it was you again
It's when I live in a hiding place
It's the only way I feel safe
When I'm safe in a hiding place
(That's not hidden now)
I'm safe in a hiding place
It's the only way I feel safe
When I'm safe in a hiding place
And you're full of facts
But not things that could add up to words
Think about meaning more as an after word
As in afterward
I return but don't remain,
I'm impatient for a reason
To complain about winter,
Making me see through again
Or is it your damaged reply,
That makes me realize that
The more I try
The less that plans will help me comprehend again
So I live in a hiding place
It's the only way I feel safe
When I'm safe in a hiding place
(That's not hidden now)
I'm safe in a hiding place
It's the only way I feel safe
When I live in a hiding place
And you're full of facts
But not things that could add up to words
You think about meaning more as an after word
And you're full of facts
But not things that could add up to words
You think about meaning more as an after word
As in afterward
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nick Average |
#1 by nick allison at Jun 4, 1971 at 9:12 AM EST |
| "There are times that I should try, To be so much more alive But if time was right then I would be with you again Or do you worry that I try to avoid the point And then deny The time I spent deciding it was you again" The first verse to me gives the impression that he was in a relationship which maybe he ended, but after time and thinking he decides that it was a mistake and that he wants to be with this person again. "So I live in a hiding place Itfs the only way I feel safe When Ifm safe in a hiding place" Then here i think he is trying to escape the feelings he has and stays in one place where he feels safe "hiding place" when hes here he can think about things more but escape the world outside. | |
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pete Wanna Be |
#2 by pete dolving at Jun 1, 1990 at 10:49 PM EST |
| I think this song is just beatiful - probably one of teh best on the album. I love the lyric 'You're full of facts but not things that could add up to words'. It's almost like the person knows all this stuff but when they speak it's all irrelevant beacuse they're not showing their true feelings. Roddy is probbaly explaining how he wants this person to just tell them the truth, instead of covering up their emotions which endless facts. | |
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converes Average |
#3 by converes at Nov 1, 1991 at 2:34 PM EST |
| yeah, reading the above things i've come to this conclusion: its about a guy (probably roddy) who has felt strongly for someone and then been hurt, he still thinks about her and would be with her again if he had a chance, he also finds he has to live in a hiding place in order to keep his feelings to himself, almost as if he is avoiding her and hiding from her. He is talking about another relationship at the same time that didnt mean anything really to him or at least didnt compare to the main one in this song. "the more i try... the less that plans will help me comprehend again" the only thing i can think from this is that he is trying to come up with a plan to get her back but that.. i dunno! something like that. after reading your thoughts, this song has added meaning now cos i can actually relate totally to it, if it is about what we think its about. it could also just be about not taking chances with women as he is scared of getting hurt again after a past relationship, so he lives in a hiding place? i prefer my first theory, or even a mixture. :) | |
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masahiro Average |
#4 by masahiro rekisha at Dec 5, 1995 at 6:52 AM EST |
| I think this is about a relationship with someone that really doesn't know how to be themself - "You're full of facts but not things that could add up to words, you think about meaning more as an afterword, as in afterward..." is possibly one of Roddy's most powerful lyrics. He is saying that you can't just quote other people and base yourself around who you think you would like to be-you need to be able to express your true feelings more and just to be yourself. It's pointless having the intelligence to know the facts but not being able to express yourself through words. This song is about communication-without it they cannot have a relationship because the other person cannot tell him who they really are. The relationship is forcing him to hide himself away-"I return but don't remain.." he cannot last with someone who he doesn't really know. I think everyone exists in a hiding place at some time, we all try to escape things when they get tough. Maybe he is critical of people doing that, and saying ultimately that's unhealthy and isn't going to help-you should get out there and talk to the people that mean something to you, otherwise you will lose them. | |
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sean Average |
#5 by sean at Mar 18, 2000 at 10:08 AM EST |
| Get the acoustic version - it's fantastic. This is my favourite song off the new album, I just listen to it all the time. | |
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What?Me Worry? Wanna Be |
#6 by What?Me Worry? at Aug 29, 2006 at 1:08 AM EST |
| I agree with the theory put forth by Michael. Seems most refined. I love this song. It's one of me all time best. And I'd kill to see the video. | |
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Rene Average |
#7 by Rene Salojärvi at Sep 27, 2007 at 9:47 AM EST |
| i totally agree with linkindude. its pretty much what i thought before but i hadn't picked up on the whole second time round thing - but it makes even more sense now. fantastic song. | |
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Andrew Wanna Be |
#8 by Andrew Tedder at Sep 28, 2007 at 1:13 PM EST |
| I can kind of relate to it...I guess it could be about having the affections of someone you love, and then losing them, happened to me, sucked really...this song means that to me, but it could mean something else altogether, Roddy is such an obtuse little bastard ain't he? | |
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cody Wanna Be |
#9 by cody westermier at Sep 29, 2007 at 12:06 AM EST |
| for anyone who has seen the video, i think it gives us a few clues. its set in the wild west, as if he is living in the past, while modern day people walk past, he is in black and white. he is also seen reading letters in his caravan thing. | |
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Layne Wanna Be |
#10 by Layne Staley at Sep 30, 2007 at 1:48 AM EST |
| Ok, this song rules, never realy decided i liked them before them befre this song, but now they have anothe album sale. Ok, i think this song is about guy who is liking sombody for the second time...possib afte a first relationship failed 'Or do you worry that I try to avoid the point And then deny The time I spent deciding it was you again' ok,so anyay, the guy (damn stereotype, it could be anyone) doesnt think that tellng the prson he likes them again is a good iea, so he keeps them safe in a hiding place, but the woman has picked up on his feelings...hence the line 'Its the only way I feel safe When Im safe in a hiding place (Thats not hidden now)' im not sure if he had told her, or she had sussed him out, but probbly the latter, cos i dont think he got any success from revealing hi feelings, which is why the song is quite depressive. I think the 'facts' bit is her giving reasons why they wont get back together, hence they dont add up to much and he realises when he says 'The more I try The less that plans will help me comprehend again' there, i think ive picked this to death and made no sense, but replies would be good l8r on | |
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Atticus Average |
#11 by Atticus Crowley at Oct 1, 2007 at 3:12 AM EST |
| Gonna agree with electricveil, here... very much so. 1 | |
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Ben Average |
#12 by Ben Zero at Oct 1, 2007 at 8:00 AM EST |
| Hmm, i found this song a lil bit difficult to understand, but what i think it's about is him having had a relationship with someone whom doesn't have ne feeling "And you're full of facts But not things that could add up to words" Meaning she knows a lot of facts however she can't express them into her own feelings. And "Think about meaning more as an after word As in afterward " i think means she spends too much time analysing things as in she doesn't just take things as it comes, she spends too much time analysing things. I'm not really too sure what the hiding place he talks about actually is? Any suggestions? But this is one of my fave tracks off the new album :) Lorna* (",) xXx | |
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ben Average |
#13 by ben bell at Oct 4, 2007 at 6:42 AM EST |
| Good song, dont know about lyrics, cant be fucked to read them, and if i did, i wouldnt remember them | |
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Chris Rhythm Player |
#14 by Chris Hall at Oct 5, 2007 at 9:42 AM EST |
| I like this song alot more than the other singles off the new album. As for what it means I agree with Lorna kind of. To me Roddy is singing about two seperate realtionships he has. One with someone who he has a difficult confusing relationship with, ut who he cares a lot about. "But if time was right then I would be with you again Or do you worry that I try to avoid the point And then deny The time I spent deciding it was you again" And the other who he has a normal relationship with but who doesn't mean anything to him. "And you're full of facts But not things that could add up to words" To me the whole point of the song is him trying to escape this confusion (IE. IN A HIDING PLACE!!, you following me?) and try to work out how he really feels. Or maybe I'm way off track. | |