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NIN - Even Deeper
By Zakk Valensky (Zakk9999@aol.com)
Notation
b bend
gb gradual bend
pb pre-bend
br bend and return
bp bend then pull off
/ slide up
slide down
~~ vibrato
h hammer on
p pull off
PM palm mute
X muted or scraped note
H harmonic
(#) I think I hear this note,but maybe not.or.sounds cool with it there...
*** tremolo pick
[: :] repeat
VERSE
Bassline d--2--2--0--5---
Can be played just as...
e------------
B------------
G------------
D--2----2----
A--2----2----
E--0----3b-----
CHORUS
e-------0--0-0-0---
B--10---8--8-8-8---
G---9---7--5-6-7---
D---7---6--X-X-X---
A---7---7--7-7-7---
E---0---0--0-0-0---
VERSE 2
e-------------------------------------
B-------------------------------------
G--10--7--9--13-----------------------
D-----------------1214/12------------
A---------------------------15--14----
E-------------------------------------
BREAK
w/ slide
e---------------------
B------------12--9----
G------------12--9----
D-----14/12-----------
A--14-----------------
E---------------------
[4:27]
e------------------------
B------------------------
G--7-7-7-7-7-78/7---
D--7-7-7-7-7-78/7---
A--7-7-7-7-7-78/7---
E------------------------
OUTRO
D--9/7-7/6--
Strings
e--------------------------------
B----------------------------9---
G---------------------10-7-9-----
D--57--59--567---------------
A--------------------------------
E--------------------------------
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Tab Discussion, Comments, and Critiques
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Alexxx <3 Lead Player |
#1 by Alexxx <3 at Nov 16, 1971 at 12:18 AM EST |
| I think this song is about him wanting to escape from his side that makes him hate himself and keep himself from love. To someplace where his fear of falling in love wouldn't make him just want to ruin it. He is always afraid he will ruin it if he feels like he truly has found love. | |
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THE RONANATOR ( Average |
#2 by THE RONANATOR (aka.Ronan) downer at Jan 25, 1972 at 6:46 AM EST |
| entity994, i think you're wrong on this one. Trent is being way too literal in the Fragile Left. This song represents the feeling of empiness that was left when his grandmother, Clara, died. Read my comments on tracks 2 through 7 of Left. This song is the funeral. It represents Trent's loss and hopelessness after Clara's death in "Just Like You Imagined." When you see that Left is about Clara's sickness and death, The whole disc comes together and tells a single cohesive tale. It's not the shitty art that let's everyone be all touchy feely, this disc flat out tells a story. | |
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Vezy Professional |
#3 by Vezy at Nov 7, 1972 at 1:03 AM EST |
| Living in a dream world. That's what most of the songs I write are about and they are like this. Yes Iam crazy. | |
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Gabba Gabba Hey Average |
#4 by Gabba Gabba Hey at Mar 15, 1973 at 6:23 AM EST |
| This describes exactly how I feel about this girl. "and in a dream I'm a different me with a perfect you we fit perfectly and for once in my life I feel complete- and I still want to ruin it afraid to look as clear as day this plan has long been underway " I dreamed of the perfect marriage nad everything and yet I feel like I'm too unworthy to even try to go as far as asker her out. | |
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Joe Average |
#5 by Joe Blurton at Apr 29, 1973 at 4:46 PM EST |
| "I woke up today to find myself in the other place with a trail of my footprints from where I ran away it seems everything I've heard just might be true and you know me (well you think you do) sometimes, I have everything- yet I wish I felt something" -- Trent left his life of stardom and only when he was on the outside looking in could he realize how jaded and damaged it had made him. People who don't even know him form opinions about him, and he's started to believe in those opinions, no matter how far off they are. He has anything he could ever possibly want- money, fame, girls, etc... but what he really wants (love and compassion) he can never find, because people fall in love with his big rockstar image, and not the 'real' trent. | |
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jga Average |
#6 by jga qup at Aug 5, 1973 at 11:01 AM EST |
| This song for me has so many meanings. Its like all your life this is what you've wanted its been your dream its consumed you and then you get what you want to find it wasnt what you wanted to begin with. you had this ideal of how it would be and everyones telling you oh this is how it is, and really it isnt. so you find yourself thinking, well if i change this everything will be ok. but then you see if you change one thing everything else changes. maybe you want everything to change. that is what you want. but how do you change it. why are all these people telling you this is how it is. so many hands in the cookie jar. like you give and give and give and everyone takes and takes and takes but when you need somthing where are they. win the lottery and see how many friends you have. how green is the grass on the other side of the fence? absolute power corrupts. | |
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Punk Rock Princ Wanna Be |
#7 by Punk Rock Princess at Oct 30, 1976 at 8:39 AM EST |
| ...I think it's about him being bi. | |
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bethan Average |
#8 by bethan jones at Jun 23, 1977 at 8:15 PM EST |
| This is a sad song that communicates many things to me. But mostly, I feel as though he's saying the only time he feels good is when he's dreaming; fantasizing about his life being different, the way he wants it to be. And even then, he still wants to destroy it because he can't handle positive things in his life - he doesn't know how. | |
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ben Average |
#9 by ben doherty at Jan 16, 1979 at 12:26 AM EST |
| Humm...I dunno about that...But, sure...? I think it's just about him and his emotions... "I woke up today to find myself in the other place" (Meaning the place where he has been his whole life, alone, the...bad place?) "with a trail of my footprints from where I ran away " (The place he was "From where I ran away" is the good place, where the sun shines, if you will. He ran away, in fear of facing "good".) "it seems everything I've heard just might be true and you know me (well you think you do)" (Everyone telling me I'd run, may be true(Because I did, and do). You said I would, "and you know me". "(well you think you do)" You think you know me so well, and you don't even know who I am, or what I'm about.) "sometimes, I have everything- yet I wish I felt something" (Pretty much what it says. Sometimes, I have everything (material), yet I well nothing, inside (emotional).) "do you know how far this has gone? just how damaged have I become?" (Do you know how much pain I have experienced, gone through. Just how much do I have to go through, to let go, enjoy again.) "when I think I can overcome it runs even deeper " (When I think I can overcome, the pain. As soon as I start, it runs even deeper, the pain becomes more.) "and in a dream I'm a different me with a perfect you we fit perfectly and for once in my life I feel complete- and I still want to ruin it" (These lyrics are basicly the whole song (the meaning)And in a perfect dream, we fit perfectly. With a different me, and a perfect you. We are both complete, and fit together so well. Yet, I still want to ruin it, ruin the pleasure, ruin the joy, because I am afraid to see, and experence what is truely good.) "afraid to look as clear as day this plan has long been underway" (As above, afraid to "see the light", this pain has long been underway, the pain has been coming, for quite awhile.) Sigh, there's the bell, got to go to my next class (Yay!) Beside giving away the WHOLE song is no fun, think a bit...later. | |
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Josh Average |
#10 by Josh Sanchez at Mar 21, 1980 at 1:59 AM EST |
| as complex this man is....to this one I can relate, maybe a tat too much....the unability to be happy....the feeling that you don't deserve the happiness...maybe in relation with the death of his grandmother, the build-up after her death must haven been real difficult for him....the guilt of being able to feel, anything.... and in relationships, being happy with someone but somehow you always ruin it or want to, conscious or not....feeding yourself on these feelings, to help you remember that you're still here.... | |
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cody Average |
#11 by cody jay at Nov 7, 1980 at 10:27 AM EST |
| I agree with you gobbly but more in the sense of what entity994 is talking about. This song is talking about depression because that's what I could relate to at the time. I woke up today to find myself in the other place with a trail of my footprints from where I ran away -When depression hits it's sudden but only because the signs are so subtle you don't realize it until it's too late. You've been running from it but one day you realize you can't escape. it seems everything I've heard just might be true and you know me (well you think you do) -Others notice certain changes and ask if you are allright and you just say yes because you want to be allright. They seem to know something is up but they will never know how far it goes. sometimes, I have everything- yet I wish I felt something -No matter how well your life is going you can be depressed and all you want is to feel good, hell anything but depressed even. do you know how far this has gone? just how damaged have I become? -Even if you talk to people about it you can never quite say the right words to depict how bad you truly feel. when I think I can overcome it runs even deeper -You start to try to find cures for it. You think you're making headway because you certainly can't get any worse but then you realize you can and you have. You just keep sinking because there is no bottom. and in a dream I'm a different me with a perfect you we fit perfectly and for once in my life I feel complete- and I still want to ruin it -You dream of being happy but you know deep down even if you could get these things you think would make you happy the depression would take over and make you sabotage everything because it always wins. afraid to look as clear as day this plan has long been underway -Above I stated that one day you realize you're depressed. When you do and come to grips with it you can look back and see all the signs you missed that if you had just seen you could have prevented it from becoming so deep. I hear them call I cannot stay the voice inviting me away -The dreams of being happy always end and you are always brought back to the depression. do you know how far this has gone? just how damaged have I become? when I think I can overcome it runs even deeper -What I said earlier. everything that matters is gone all the hands of hope have withdrawn could you try to help me hang on? it runs... -Eventually you get to the point where it is better to die then to continue living. You have nothing, not even yourself. You desperately look for someone else to save you because even though you don't want to live it keeps getting worse. It never ends. Sorry, I know it's long. But that's what that song meant to me when I first heard it. I connected with it and took it that way because I needed to. | |
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Brett Professional |
#12 by Brett Czap at Apr 11, 1984 at 5:05 PM EST |
| I love the beat in this song.. The softness of his voice. You feel like you're lost inside it. I don't think Trent even knows what half his songs are about.. he's just such a fucking lyrical mastermind that he can fool us without fazing. | |
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SLUT Badass |
#13 by SLUT at Dec 1, 1987 at 9:03 PM EST |
| wow great understanding Chica* | |
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alex Rhythm Player |
#14 by alex Smith at Aug 29, 1991 at 11:41 AM EST |
| I think that the fragile whole CD has interlocking meaning I mean my favorite songs on the CD are the Fragile, Even Deeper, and Some what damaged. I belive thaey all have inter locking means. In this song the girl in the fragil has brokin loose and lose it and because he no longer has her to keep him sain. He falls back into his old world. | |
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Vezy Professional |
#15 by Vezy at Jul 22, 1993 at 12:22 AM EST |
| From my own experiences, I think that just when you've think you've understood the roots of your problems, you realize that whatever you are feeling runs even deeper. Something deep inside is causing it. Things have built up over time and situations become more complicated. It's about be empty inside, yet so full. | |
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Devin Average |
#16 by Devin Moreno at Nov 6, 1993 at 12:03 PM EST |
| It's as simple as doing something that you dont think will cause harm or probably not, and everything gets worse.And when there already is pain you do something to make it worse, and once it seems like everythings starting to get better, you do something stupid again | |
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Justin - MrBlit Rhythm Player |
#17 by Justin - MrBlitz - Maletta at Mar 25, 1994 at 8:49 PM EST |
| Personally i think this song is about slowly going insane. The more you try and deal with your emotions the more you realise things are wrong. I think he talks about having everything as a lack of desire, he is static and left to sink under the weight of his own thoughts. He cannot turn back because it is difficult to forget and he cannot stop because to do so would be suicide, so he carries on going hoping to get out of the tunnel eventually. | |
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ben Rhythm Player |
#18 by ben kurkul at Mar 23, 1997 at 7:48 PM EST |
| Shut up about Clara already! I am sick of seeing that interpretation on every song from The Fragile! Gah! | |
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sebastian Professional |
#19 by sebastian at Oct 5, 1997 at 10:26 AM EST |
| I think Trent, has a place to get away from things, bad things in his life, troubles and hassles, this being 'the other place' and he ran away from his life. however this place has become 'contaminated' with this thing that runs 'even deeper' and now he dreams of a new 'different' place to get to and get away from things, the end describes his journey there. | |
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leester Professional |
#20 by leester at Aug 20, 1999 at 1:29 AM EST |
| sorry for the grammar in that last one. | |
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*evan* Average |
#21 by *evan* at Jul 23, 2003 at 11:58 PM EST |
| i think this song (though im sure most people dont agree) is about trent's relationship with God. Yes i said it. "it seems everything i've heard, just might be true...sometimes i hate everything but i wish i felt something" i interpret this as trent wanting to believe and have faith in God but he believes he has gone too far from God for God to accept him again and that there is no use to turn back from the path he has chosen: "do you know how far this has gone? just how damaged have I become? when I think I can overcome, it runs even deeper" And his own demons and temptations which he cannot overcome: "I hear them call, i cannot stay, the voice inviting me away." Then again he seems to confess of his longing for God but at the same time his hate: "and for once in my life I feel complete, and I still want to ruin it" For those who disagree, here's a little insight - Trent was raised in a strong protestant home and when asked by spin magazine he confessed to believe in God but was not sure of His relevence. - Spin Feb 1990 | |
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Average |
#22 by vix at Dec 25, 2004 at 11:41 PM EST |
| Maybe it's kind of about how hard it is to find someone who truly loves you if you are rich. So thats why you need to get hitched before famous. | |
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Sam Average |
#23 by Sam Ordway at Oct 17, 2005 at 2:14 PM EST |
| To me this song is about depression. It's the feeling of sliding back 2 feet for every foot you climb out of a pit. There are 2 lines that really hit home for me: "sometimes, I have everything yet I wish I felt something" "In a dream I'm a different me with a perfect you, we fit perfectly. For once in my life I feel complete- and I still want to ruin it." This, to me, is depression. No matter what you have, what you accomplish, who you are, it's never enough. There is a need that is unfulfilled, a need that will always run even deeper. Living with something like that makes you self-destructive. You work so hard to try to feel good that in the process you destroy the things that matter in your life, the things that should make you happy, slipping another 2 feet down the hole. | |
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Jimmy Lead Player |
#24 by Jimmy Chezz at Sep 9, 2007 at 3:46 AM EST |
| Does anyone ever consider interpreting art as art, rather than acting like a bunch of gossiping wives? Stop trying to dissect Trent Reznor. If he simply transcribed his personal life into his songs, you wouldn't have good music. If you can't identify any deeper meaning for yourself in any of his lyrics, then you are precisely the sort of person who gives him something in common with Kurt Cobain: the desire to commit suicide. You're like the shallow whores who loved "Smells Like Teen Spirit" when it contained nothing but contempt for you. | |
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Zach Wanna Be |
#25 by Zach U haft 2 ask 1st at Sep 9, 2007 at 6:53 AM EST |
| THEORY 1: MAYBE its about his life as a "rockstar". How he views it, how it happened, why he did it. And about how people think he has "everything"... but not the one thing he truely wants. I woke up today to find myself in the other place with a trail of my footprints from where I ran away -{he suddenly woke up and realized what his life. And all the things he ran away from through it) "it seems everything I've heard just might be true and you know me well you think you do" - (i think hes referring to the fans that go on about how they know exactly how he feels ect. And they know everything about him cause they've read books and magizines) sometimes, I have everything- yet I wish I felt something -(he has money and stardom and all most people could want... yet its not what brings him happiness and satisfaction) and in a dream I'm a different me with a perfect you -(dreaming of a different life) we fit perfectly and for once in my life I feel complete- and I still want to ruin it -(he knows what he wants but he cant bring himself to do it) afraid to look as clear as day this plan has long been underway | |
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